A JW woman died giving birth in my area, I only heard of it, i didn't know her personally.
The Lone Ranger
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Do you have a relative or know someone who died over the blood issue?
by IW inmy nephew did.
please support barbara's effort to force a change in the watchtower!
please do whatever you can to spread the word about the essay and the watchtower's manipulation of facts that only serve to kill innocent children.
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Did The Watchtower Society Decieve You Enough To Sue Them???
by minimus indid they really misrepresent anything to you that you could sue for?
everyone knows how they take quotes out of context.
do you personally have a valid reason to sue the society??
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The Lone Ranger
Look how hard it is to sue a Cigarette Company, I think sueing a religionous Organisation that is based on 'Volunteers' will be much harder.
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Why is it only a JW can do a good deed?
by Bumble Bee inmy hubby recently went above and beyond the call of duty at work.
the person involved called his supervisor and let him know how appreciative she was, supervisor emailed hubby with the info and thanked him for what he did as well.. my hubby was really happy with the thanks he got for doing this.
while having dinner with his family he showed them a copy of the email and expained what he did.
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The Lone Ranger
About 10 years ago I was driving as a passager in a car with a MS JW 'friend' at the wheel, we got into the subject of women ..surprise!..surprise!.. and cutting to the chase, he said that all worldly girls are Whores, I was shocked, I told him that there are many girls who have strong morals and who aren't even christains yet alone JW's but he wouldn't accept it. So I asked him "you mean to say, that if a girl isn't a JW then she must be a whore?" he said YES. My apologies and sympathies to all the good and decent yuong ladies out there. P.S. This same MS JW got removed as an MS some time later for suggesting to other younger male JW's to go to a brothel with him, but he learnt to 'walk the walk and talk the talk' and about 3 years later he was reinstated as an MS and he is an Elder, I still know of him.
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why disfellowshipped?
by knothead34 inas a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.
thanks.
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The Lone Ranger
According to the WT, they Disfellowship only those who are "Unrepentant Gross Sinners", but since no one can question the elders or speak to the Disfellowship one, no one ever finds out the REAL reason why a brother got DFed. So, we have many situations where a Good Friend whom you may have known for many years suddenly is announced that he/she is Disfellowshipped, now the audience are to presume that the DFed one is an unrepentant gross sinner, you are NOT allowed to ask WHY? you are not allowed to speak to them , if you do ask questions then you may also get DFEd. This leaves room for huge injustices and corruption and is NOT the way it was done in the bible, if fact the older men would meet at the city gates for any ‘Committees’ so that everyone could see the court in action, just like in modern courts there is a public gallery so that everyone can see whats happening and see the evidence and see why the judgment was given, but the WT does everything is secret with the excuse that others should mind there own business.
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Movie "what will you do with your life"
by The Lone Ranger inhas anyone seen the wt dvd what will you do with your life?
i have watched it and its a masterpiece of propaganda.
even i felt like i should just quit my job and go pioneering, tell my children not to seek good employment, not to go well in sports, jehovah will provide their bowl of rice to keep them alive, etc.etc.
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The Lone Ranger
Has anyone seen the WT DVD “What will you do with your life?” I have watched it and it’s a masterpiece of propaganda. Even I felt like I should just quit my job and go pioneering, tell my children not to seek good employment, not to go well in sports, Jehovah will provide their Bowl of Rice to keep them alive, etc….etc…. now I’ll need to unbrainwash my kids. They showed it in the KH as a special viewing, the main movie was about the usual length, 45 mins, but after that there was more clips and experience’s and interviews, it seen to go on and on, I could sense the ‘sign” from the audience when the interviews kept coming, it was 10:30 when they decided to stop the DVD and let everyone go home, it still wasn’t over! It made my stomach turn, when I thought of all the life that this movie will waste.
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D'Fing and Love
by I-CH-TH-U-S ini once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.
he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.
didnt seem applicable in many ways.
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The Lone Ranger
The perverted Love of Jehovahs witness's http://home.c2i.net/norman/perverted-love.htm
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i need some advise
by bayrhino inwe'll were do i start i've surfed your board and i now at the point of breaking away from the jw organization .
for about 2 years now i've read and done some research and seen all the lies cover up read "crisis if conscience" ray franz and i got to the meeting and see all these people hundreds just going about not being open minded if wt tells these people the world is flat the thats what they'll believe and never question it.
we'll im 28 and been a jw all my life met my wife got married i have 2 wonderfull kids.
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The Lone Ranger
I am in exactly the same shoes mate. I have known of the WST lies for about 5 years now, but I still go to meetings, I was at that bookstudy also when they discussed 607BCE and I know exactly how u felt, I didn't answer up that evening at all.
All my family are JW"s and my friends are mostly JWS, I am married to a good woman and I have 2 teenage girls (step girls). I know others will give you different advice but as far as I am concerned, just keep playing their game, its not really worth it to get yourself DFed or DA. not when your whole life has revolved around them, just keep telling your wife little bits and pieces and slowly I am sure she will see the lies of the WTS, but it can take a few years, "walk the walk and talk the talk".
As far as your dad is concerned, don't forget that he is an Elder and he is mostly concerned of his postion, its a great shame to be stood-down as an Elder and he won't let that happen untill he is 110% sure and a little news ' here and their' isn't enought, but keep telling him things in PRIVATE and let him think about it.
Another reason why I keep going to the meeting is because of my teenage girls, although the WTS isn't the truth, its better for them to have freinds from the KH then their school friends. Of course I will discourage them to get batized and I have also tell them little bits and pieces so that they won't have blind faith in the WTS, when they are older I will except them to go their own way and so will I.
Be Innocent like a dove but Cautious like a serpent.
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Is there any hope of you coming back to Jehovah?
by LeftBehind inmy brother is a self proclaimed apostate.
i see now that there is a wide variety of posters here.
so to those that have left the witnesses what would it take to get you back?
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The Lone Ranger
I think you need to listen to him dear.
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Jan. 15, 2005 Watchtower ....
by RubaDub inhas anyone picked up / received the new wt yet?
isn't that usually the one with the annual totals in it?
i have not been to the kh in a couple weeks and was just wondering.
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The Lone Ranger
I guess they need a little extra time to make bad figures look good.
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Do the angels guide people to the witnesses?
by undercover ini remember growing up that we used to hear experiences of people who felt lost in life or weren't happy and miraculasly a jw showed up at the door and brought life-saving good news to the distressed one who moments ago was seeking help from god in prayer.. and there were the experiences of people who led a life of debauchery until realizing that they weren't happy and they had to change.
enter jws as a study was started and the former evil-doer was transformed into a zealous servant of god.. we've all heard the stories.
they were always shared at assemblies and public talks to impress upon us that god's spirit was acting upon either the witness who found the searching on or that the spirit moved the searching one to find the organization.
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The Lone Ranger
If you take the time to hear other religions, they ALL have stories like that. I once heard a young man being intereviewed on TV, he was saying how grateful he was that Jesus lead him to his church and how his life was saved, how he changed for the better etc.. etc.. that church was called " The People's Temple" and their leader was named Jim Jones. Of course that is an exteme example, but ALL religions have stoires like that, listen to the TV evangelist, they have interviews of men and women who's lives were 'lost' until they heard their message and then they changed and they've being happier ever since.
Of course a 'good' JW never listens to other religions because they all come from satan except for the WTS.